tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5879347314635530398.post5484414019739912076..comments2023-09-29T01:01:15.423-07:00Comments on Traveling Through Time and Space: Lies, Damned Lies and StatisticsFantastic Forresthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08044290192610027408noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5879347314635530398.post-40602555968853565782009-02-19T19:34:00.000-08:002009-02-19T19:34:00.000-08:00I wish I believed that any liar can be found out, ...I wish I believed that any liar can be found out, but not true. Ask anyone working with sex offenders. They lie their tails off and can be quite charismatic in the meantime. Hate that. <BR/><BR/>As for our kids, I believe the "acceptable" lies (not to be confused with pleasing or condoned) are those which safeguard developmentally appropriate intimacies. The private realm that we adults guard so securely.shrink on the couchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13271891110211081990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5879347314635530398.post-73312114863394611132009-02-19T18:29:00.000-08:002009-02-19T18:29:00.000-08:00First of all - MmmmMMm, Mr. Orange. I enjoy Tim Ro...First of all - MmmmMMm, Mr. Orange. I enjoy Tim Roth, too. :D<BR/><BR/>A student was just telling me about this show since we played a game about lying and body language in our speech class. Must check it out.<BR/><BR/>I need to ruminate more on the kids lying thing...Will get back to you.stephaniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04257126641387033673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5879347314635530398.post-72417480687469513002009-02-19T18:16:00.000-08:002009-02-19T18:16:00.000-08:00Kathryn - did Johnny sniff when he was bluffing wh...Kathryn - did Johnny sniff when he was bluffing while playing poker? This could be quite a profitable observation...<BR/><BR/>Beck - I'm with you, lady. The blame transfer thing is something none of us moms want them to carry over into adulthood, for sure!<BR/><BR/>Momjii - You're so right. What's the magic age, I wonder, where we can be okay with less transparency? I mean, I suppose it differs from child to child depending on maturity, but is there a general range, do you think?<BR/><BR/>Even in Paris, you can watch <I>Lie to Me </I>thanks to the miracle that is hulu.com - Hurray! The first episode is at http://www.hulu.com/watch/54050/lie-to-me-pilotFantastic Forresthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08044290192610027408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5879347314635530398.post-70189294114994575482009-02-19T17:37:00.000-08:002009-02-19T17:37:00.000-08:00We don't like our kids lying for a reason: we're s...We don't like our kids lying for a reason: we're scared for them. If the kid lies, that means he has done something for which he will be punished or yelled at, and if a parent needs to punish his kid, that means the kid did something bad or wrong. We are afraid that they would do something that we won't be able to fix, create a situation where we won't be able to help - so we want a 100 percent transparency on everything they do and even think. When they grow up, lying starts meaning "I have my own life now, my private life" - something parents accept with difficulty even though they perfectly understand that it is normal. But it is always hard to see your kid grow up and go away.<BR/><BR/>You wrote: "... non-verbal clues can identify liars. That we involuntarily give ourselves away" - I read an interesting scientific article some time ago that said that people give themselves away with those involuntary gestures because our unconscious self does not like to lie, so we actually want to be found out no matter the consequences. So deep it is in us, that those non-verbal clues are extremely hard to overcome :)<BR/><BR/>As to Tim Roth, I absolutely adore this actor for some years now. I think he has a big talent and a powerful personality - he truly does mesmerize. I've never heard about this show you mention, so I'll try to find it - I'm really interested. Thanks for speaking about it!momijihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11793484081068503248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5879347314635530398.post-31691343997475907262009-02-19T14:17:00.000-08:002009-02-19T14:17:00.000-08:00I try not to press my kids about things that I thi...I try not to press my kids about things that I think they don't want to share - but they're very open children and I read them pretty well, too. So it hasn't been an issue for us yet.<BR/>Straight out lying, though? Like blaming someone else for somethign they did? I call them on that.Beckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13953517447164263617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5879347314635530398.post-16899281578710601792009-02-19T13:34:00.000-08:002009-02-19T13:34:00.000-08:00I had to laugh as I read this - my brother Johnny ...I had to laugh as I read this - my brother Johnny used to sniff every time he lied! For the longest time I didn't tell him how i knew he was lying - finally, when we were older, I said, "Johhny! You sniff everytime you tell a lie!" laughig...so it got to be a joke between...teehee.Kathryn Magendiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12863595228298349863noreply@blogger.com